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The Honda CYB350
Content © Steve Ingram 2003

INTRODUCTION

The Honda CYB350
The decision to Build a CYB350 for Post Classic racing came about for several Reasons. The Racing was to be for fun and enjoyment, watching others on these Classic bikes and similar 350's and 450's enjoying themselves sealed the subconscious deal many years ago.

A good mate in New Zealand Graeme Duckett was the supremo builder, and there isn't much Graeme doesn't know about bikes. New Zealand to me was a logical and good choice of construction, as there were multitudes of available parts there, they were easy to find, plus its where Ian Johnson of the motorbikeshop lived.

The Selection process came down to a CB350 or a CB450, but I preferred the CB350, I felt it would be more fun to race. I do also think the 350 is a better proposition than the 450, its lighter, handles better, and goes like snot if done right, plus 350s are a better bet as the valve operation is normal. Certainly it can run rings around a 450, or even fully capable of squeezing out a 500cc single and twin 500 fours. Graeme however has a soft spot for 450's, so guess what he has to race on .........
The CB350 was a solid performer as a street bike, but also a very common bike as more of these motorcycles were built than any other single production motorcycle, so spare parts are still somewhat available. So where I hang out, that means I'm going to enter 1963 to 1972 Period 4 Classic racing. As long as we stick to the Aussie Road racing rule book.

The replica CYB350 is built with help from old pictures and the stories around them. These old pictures are from the Tokyo Motor Show in late 1968?. This of course, is after Honda had finished racing in 1968 - see Honda's race history 1959 - 1968

The CYB350 was actually first produced in 1968 by Honda RSC, and was originally very close to the standard CB350. Below are some very coarse newspaper quality pictures, from Joep. Main changes were a hotter camshaft and 10.5 : 1 racing pistons, CR Kei-hins with 31 mm dia, energy transfer ignition (i.e., the generator directly connected to the ignition coils and contact breakers), open megas, rear set foot rests, special aluminium tank and polyester seat, racing type rev. counter, clip-ons, aluminium rims and polyester fairing.

1968 RSC CYB350      

1986 RSC CYB350

1986 RSC CYB350

1986 RSC CYB350

1986 RSC CYB350

1986 RSC CYB350

 

1968 RSC CYB350

1986 RSC CYB350

1986 RSC CYB350

1986 RSC CYB350

1986 RSC CYB350

Suspension was standard, as were the brakes, no doubt with racing type linings. The frame had some reinforcing tubes added, supporting the tank, and an hydraulic steering damper. Claimed output was 50 bhp, a little optimistic, me thinks, compared to the CR77's power output. Later Honda produced a hotter version. This was a more "professional" bike, with racing type suspension and magnesium brakes, 4ls at the front and 2ls at the rear. The rest of the specifications were the same.

The 250 & 350 was used in classic racing around the world.[See Honda's race history 1959 - 1968] It's easy to tune and proved to be very reliable and fast. The decision was made to use Ian Johnson of the motorbikeshop in picturesque Welcome bay, Tauranga, New Zealand to modify the engine heads and lighten the cranks etc.

Honda once made a "Sport pack" for this model in the late 60s, and consisted of 91 items to convert the roadster in to a racer. The very first CB350 racer from Honda was on display at the Tokyo Show autumn 1968, and Honda claimed a power output of over 50 bhp. In the early 1970's Yoshimura also made a race kit for the 250's and 350cc twins.

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So then the Initial Basic Inventory: ......yes it can and did constantly changed after this .......

  • Sandblast and paint the frame after delugging and welding seams. Paint frame and fittings.
  • Tank, seatbase and fairing.
  • Cylinderhead: porting, machining, valve mods / assembly.
  • Gas flow bench testing. Pistons: rcb Honda pistons 13:1 compression
  • lightened / squishband machined / head machined for more compression.
  • Tyres / Flanged rims 18inch 36 spoke DID or Acront etc. for CB350 hub or (40) spoke
    CB500/4 front disc hub Front forks: CB450 yokes / CB550 fork legs and stauntions / CB500/4 front wheel (40 spoke) twin disc 2.5 in rims / tt100 Tyres.
  • Reservoir and hydraulic lines from CB450 - 500.Calipers from CB500 / 550/4.
  • Fiberglass: tank / seat base / fairing / bum fairing
  • Cappellini parts: Oil filter for original pump use, larger bore original pump, oil breather, 5th gear?, special quality valves, magnetic sump plug, various sprockets for the gearbox in 520 size chain, Ignition:points or electronic. ? neutronic?
  • Fairing mounts and brackets. Rear set footrests and brake assembly gearshaft modify to suit rearsets.
  • Carbs:Vm32mm mikunis 34mm, mikunis.cb450 cv carbs.
  • Crank lightened to Cappellini specs.
  • Bronze valve guides
  • R&D valve springs
  • megacycle cams? 12340L.
  • Needle roller cam housings (optional with external fed lines from Capellini oil filter housing).
  • Lightened rockers.
  • Seat upholstered.
  • Front guard(CB500 or similar), or painted
  • CB500/4 Oil cooler? Clip ons, CB500 gearbox with 350 bearings
  • CB450 twin clutch and front crank gear [this speeds up the gearbox giving a close ratio effect].
  • Gaskets / o rings / seals. Final drive sprocket and chain.
  • anodize or zinc plate bolts, nuts / fittings etc.
  • Battery - wiring / electric's
  • Rear shocks: konis Hagon or similar.
  • Header and Mufflers

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The Basic Construction then ..........

FRAME, SUSPENSION & CONTROLS .........

FOREWARD

Where ever you live, you must make sure you comply with the rules under which you intend to race. This applies also to the Class you intend to race. For me this is the Motorcycling Australia Road Racing Rulebook. The rules are strictly inforced for racing and its various classes.

FRAME

The frame before delugging and seam weldingWe used a Standard 1972 CB350 Motorcycle and therefore Frame - See image at left. You could also I guess use a Honda SL350 frame as well, slightly different frame though.

Its of interest to note I guess you need to be careful that its not a stolen basic bike you purchased or are intending to use. Each State or Country has its own checking methods to assertain if Vins are clear or not. Nothing worse then completing your pride and joy to have the rug possibly pulled out from under.

OK so you have your stock CB350, rip out the tool box and pull it all apart - no need to worry to much about where things belong too much as most will be disgarded

One needs to check for alignment to see if it has been dropped and maybe tweaked out of plumb, and make sure there are no cracks. Strip the frame by getting it sandblasted, or use car paint stripper. Tip - paint has a way of hiding defects to the naked viewing eye, so get it all off.

When this is done you can start delugging all the unwanted metal from the frame and start seam welding all pressed seams and some of the seams welded right up instead of gaps. This welding, as you no doubt have worked out, is for security and frame strength at speed. This afterall is what gives you a secure stable platform for your race bike.

Oh delugging are things like the centerstand and related brackets, the rider footpeg mounting brackets, the bracket under the steering head, the brake pedal bracket and stoplight switch bracket. At this time the brackets or mounting points for the fairing are done, as well as the seat mount and fuel tank mounts etc. There is such a variety of parts available you could use - your brackets will need to be located to suit what you already have or are going to use

The steering stop in our case was moved slightly higher by 6mm to clear the Honda CB500 lower triple clamp and if your wanting a steering dampened, nows the time to fit a bracket. [You may find in your class of racing a damper is required, so you need to check].

The frame was now prepped and painted by Graemes son.

Note on Welding: Unless you are proficient with this task - get a competant welder to do it for you - its an accomplished artform

SUSPENSION

The original suspension is great for the stock road bike, However for racing we chose a different setup. CB500/4 front disc hub Front forks with an xs2 yam disc. CB550 fork legs and stauntions, cb350 hanger and cb500/4 calipers, a CB500/4 front wheel with 18inch Flanged rims 36 spoke Acront. Front guard was from a CB500

The rear wheel — ????????????? consists of a 1971 T500 rear brake hub laced to an 18-inch shouldered aluminum rim, 2.15 inches wide. Be sure to follow your rule book on rim width, as different racing clubs have different rules on this subject.

The rearsets were CBR900?????????. They are lightweight and allow more ground clearance when cornering. These are mounted in the holes originally used to mount the stock exhaust.
The shifter had its bottom shift rod bracket cut and welded to the top of the shifter to allow more room for the exhaust to tuck under the frame and foot peg. The front shift shaft lever also faced upwards and was off the CBR900RR as it was longer and allows for extremely smooth shifts. With the rear T500 brake being cable operated, be sure to mount a brake lever stopper, so it won't return all the way up or flop around on you.

The rear shocks used was a hagon ???? [we really wanted Konis - but couldnt get them]. These are taller than stock and are dampening adjustable. While assembling your rolling chassis, We recommend, and its common sense to replace all bearings, i.e.: steering stem with tapered roller bearings, wheel bearings with double dust seal type, new swingarm bearings and bushings - bronze bushings if you can find them or have them made. Any play in these areas and you may get a real live tank slapper - one is not a happy camper if that occurs.

CONTROLS

We used a set of clip-ons rather than clubman??? bars, which work just as well, because of their adjustability up and down the forks. For the clutch we used a CB450 twin clutch and front crank gear. The reason behind this is that this speeds up the gearbox giving a close ratio effect.
For the brake side we used a CB500/4 front disc hub. The throttle was off the 1976 Honda GT500 ??????.


The Engine ..........
The motorcycleshop lightened cranks

While the Honda CB350 engine in stock form is quite potent, it also lends itself quite readily to some added horsepower. I opted for more performance, being a rev head, so the task was given to Ian Johnson of the motorbikeshop in NZ. Ian lightened the cranks and worked his magic on the heads.
If you choose not to modify your engine right away, you still need to disassemble it, check it out and replace any worn components because of the loads it will be asked to work under, check cases / spigot housing etc. for stress cracks etc.
You can also decide to get it blueprinted and balanced (this involves making sure your pistons, rods / cranks etc. are equal weight, carbs need to be matched to intake and intake to heads etc.) This alone will make the engine much faster, smoother and reliable than before, it was afterall a mass produced production run assembly line bike. Another option is to undercut the gears, which aids not slipping or jumping out of the selected gear under high or extreme race loads

The lightened cranks

Franco Cappellini parts are superb. The plunger pumps used on 350-450 Hondas had non return spheres that tended to float at high revs restricting oil delivery. The Eaton geared pump delivers more oil the faster you go and is gear driven off the crank (the new pump requires milling the crankcases though). The valves for the engine are premium quality for racing. The oil filter housing eliminates the pressure robbing centrivical filter and has a disposable cartridge filter. Can housings are needle roller converted and need less oil to perform compared to plain bushings and carry load better and allow freer revving. etc. etc. ....

Franco Cappelliniparts chosen: 1 x filter housing - we can interchange these between motors, 2 x needle roller cam bearing housings, 1 for each motor, 1 x oil cooler, 1 x oil lines from filter to cooler, 1 x oil line from cooler to cam housings, again we can interchange between motors if ever needed.

We chose the 123-40 cam from Megacycle Cams, in San Rafael, California. These cams have to be used with racing pistons. Its also recommended to use high-performance valve springs to prevent valve float at high RPM, this can cause valve and piston damage. The reason we chose the 123-40 cam is that it gives me more top-end horsepower without sacrificing bottom end and midrange performance.

Note: You will need to clean out the entrance for the cams in the cam box so the redesigned cam lobes will fit, clean the ridges off the cam box floor and enlarge the opening in the cam sprocket. That's baically it to fit the new 123-40 cam. If your cam rockers are worn you will need to have them reworked or hardened or get new ones from Honda.

As far as pistons, chosen was the 348cc / 13:1 compression RCB Honda pistons. Along with the pistons, we also got high performance valve springs. We chose these pistons for their high compression and light weight compared to the stock ones. This high compression piston with its lighter weight helps maintain the low-end torque and gain top-end speed at slightly higher RPMs.

Note: If you use these, you will have to check piston to head, valve to piston and piston to sparkplug clearances to make sure that the piston does not hit anything. You may also have to watch your tach closely while racing with this engine setup.

The ??????? valve springs are smaller, lighter and stronger than the stock ones and allow one to rev the motor higher with less chance of valve float as they return the valves quicker.
The intakes need to be enlarged in the carb area to accept 34mm Mikuni carbs and slightly enlarged all the way through to the valve seat area. The exhaust were ???? and matched. Be sure to use new intake manifolds.

Note: Disassemble the entire motor and check it for wear and, if you find any, replace the worn part[s] or repair it. A weak point are the cam chain rollers, these are soft rubber and barely last a season of racing, so be sure to replace these along with a heavy duty cam chain such as Tsubaki. Check the crank for play or wear as it will get quite a workout.

The transmissions were plucked from a couple of CB500's. This brings gearing closer together allowing for less RPMs lost in shifting. ???? [This actually lowers fifth gear and you may have to use taller gearing for faster race tracks].
The transmission gears should be checked for wear on the teeth and shift dogs, and replaced, if wear is noticeable. Also check for wear especially in first and second gears as well as the shift drum. Any wear is dedected in the tracks of the drum then it should be replaced. In the clutch department check out the steel discs to factory specs and also check them for signs of burn or warp.
Install a set of Honda friction discs and Honda CB500 clutch springs, or shim the stock springs with spark plug washers.

A Guide ......

Standard Honda 350 Gear Ratios - 16/36, 133kph @ 8000rpm, 16.69 kph / 1000rpm, 5,780 rpm @ 97kph

Gear Ratios available -

17/38, 133kph @ 8000rpm, 16.69 kph / 1000rpm, 5,780 rpm @ 97kph & 174kph @ 10,500rpm redline

17/36, 142kph @ 8000rpm, 17.70kph / 1000rpm, 5,450 rpm @ 97kph & 185kph @ 10,500rpm redline

17/33, 154.50kph @ 8000rpm, 19.32kph / 1000rpm, 5,000 rpm @ 97kph & 202.78 @ 10,500rpm redline


The PROJECT COSTS

Parts Cost in Kiwi $
Original Bike purchase+spare frame & engine
$600.00
Bikes (swap meet)
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1972 CB350
$250.00
2xCB500 engines for the internals (gearbox & gear clusters instead of the Cappellini 5th gear.)
$300.00
Frame
-
Frame welding
-
Engine - crank lightening / balancing / head porting / valves / guides and pistons
$1200.00?
Carburetors - 34mm mikunis
$200.00?
Franco Cappellini parts
$1000.00?
fairing (off an early 70's racer)
$100.00
Megacycle camshaft
$300.00??
piston kit, 348cc 13.0:1
$400.00??
valve springs
$300.00??
Exhaust headers
??
Exhaust tailpipes
$130.00??
Exhaust welding
??
Steering head bearings
??
Hagon shocks
??
TT 100 Tyres
$480.00??
Chain and sprockets
$330.00??
Rear wheel
$??
Front-end
??
Paint
$350.00??
Assembly: Done by Graeme Duckett, time unknown
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TOTAL New Zealand $
$????.00
TOTAL Australian $
$????.39
Shipping to Australia
?
Customs
?
GST
?
GRAND TOTAL New Zealand $
$????.00
GRAND TOTAL Australian $
$????.39

THE RESOURCE TEAM

  • Franco Cappellini
    filter housing, needle roller cam bearing housings,

    oil cooler & oil lines
  • ?????, Inc.
    Pistons and valve springs
  • Megacycle Cams
    90 Mitchell Blvd.
    San Rafael, CA 94903
    Phone: 415-472-3195
    Stage II cams


  • Sprocket Specialists
    Sprockets


  • ??? Fiberglass
    Seat & tailpiece


  • ???? Pipe
    Exhaust tailpipes


  • ?????
  • Ignition
  • etc Etc
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